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lpapez · 0 points · 0 comments · 11 hours ago

This is the right way to deliver software. Produce working product first, validate the idea, stabilize the business, start generating profit, and then you can start optimizing your costs. In fact optimization is by far the easiest part of the process because there are many system programming experts on this HN thread who consider these optimizations to be trivial.

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sandeepkd6 hours ago

Its a yes if you do not know the domain space, query patterns well enough and also if the cost of optimization or time for optimization may have detrimental impact to business. In this case it most likely means that the crowd in the room did not anticipate much on this in early phases and no one in the room pointed these things out. The irony is that these performance and disk numbers are heavily discussed as a part of system design interviews. > In fact optimization is by far the easiest part of the process because there are many system programming experts on this HN thread who consider these optimizations to be trivia This is a misconception when you including roll out as a part of the change too, changing data once its running in production is hard, changing the data structure is even harder and when you talk about making changes in cache which is at the hot path its probably the hardest. Looking at the graph at the end it looks like it took them 4+ months to roll out the changes after optimization.

brainless4 hours ago

I do not think Cloudflare was a less-than-peers optimized product when they launched. This is one of their blog posts which describes taking one aspect even further. I think Cloudflare became big only because they were so much more optimized than others that they offered some services for free that others were not offering. If running costs are high, you only burn (VC) cash and then you exit.

vanviegen11 hours ago

Or optimize a bit earlier and prevent having to scale out to a bazillion systems.

nine_k7 hours ago

This assumes that you have plenty of cash to burn in the process, which is approximately correct for VC-backed ventures, and for offshoots of large corporations that play a lomg game.

Sarkie51 minutes ago

Make it work, make it fast, refactor