I'm not surprised at the outcome. These Ampere system single core/thread performance is pretty low and that is where you feel it. The OS/software simply cannot allocate the threads across enough cores effectively to make up for this difference.
This is why things like the Apple M Series feels so fast, because while they don't win the multi core performance especially when going up against a 80 core beast like this, they have single thread performance exactly were it is needed.
Maybe we will need 80 cores in future, that is cool but for daily home use it is still just way too much for what we need.
RVrvz5 分钟前
The AArch64 desktop experiment started in 2020 with the Macbook M1 and it ended in 2026 with great success.
It is called Apple Silicon.
PRpreisschild2 分钟前
Which is somewhat useless because it doesn't properly support ACPI/UEFI so that you can boot other operating systems
ANanthonj21 分钟前
I see the problem, but I don't see a clear analysis on the actual source of the problem. I assumed the issue was mainly single core performance, but he is also suggesting context switches could be the cause?
So could you fix that with a new scheduler? Or you just need another SoC with better single core performance? I could imagine that the latter already exists, just not in soc with >16 cores.
My naive view is that such high core count system comes with tradoff on core size and interconnect/memeory bus complexity.
And I mean.. my phone is a middle lower end device and for sure I can play youtube videos (maybe in a popup as well) and run the browser without noticing that much difference from my laptop.
____patchbit__2 小时前
Can the ThinkPad T14 ARM Snapdragon variant function without pain as a daily Linux/BSD driver?
SEsedatk1 小时前
Snapdragon has excellent single-thread performance (unlike Ampere) if that’s what you’re asking.
IZizacus25 分钟前
No. It can run Windows well though.
SHshevy-java1 小时前
Without pain? I mean, there is pain when using Linux. It just works better than, say, Windows.
SHshevy-java1 小时前
The Desktop Linux will take over from here guys. Next year it will be ready, together with GNU Hurd for everyone and their Grandma.
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I'm not surprised at the outcome. These Ampere system single core/thread performance is pretty low and that is where you feel it. The OS/software simply cannot allocate the threads across enough cores effectively to make up for this difference. This is why things like the Apple M Series feels so fast, because while they don't win the multi core performance especially when going up against a 80 core beast like this, they have single thread performance exactly were it is needed. Maybe we will need 80 cores in future, that is cool but for daily home use it is still just way too much for what we need.
The AArch64 desktop experiment started in 2020 with the Macbook M1 and it ended in 2026 with great success. It is called Apple Silicon.
Which is somewhat useless because it doesn't properly support ACPI/UEFI so that you can boot other operating systems
I see the problem, but I don't see a clear analysis on the actual source of the problem. I assumed the issue was mainly single core performance, but he is also suggesting context switches could be the cause? So could you fix that with a new scheduler? Or you just need another SoC with better single core performance? I could imagine that the latter already exists, just not in soc with >16 cores. My naive view is that such high core count system comes with tradoff on core size and interconnect/memeory bus complexity. And I mean.. my phone is a middle lower end device and for sure I can play youtube videos (maybe in a popup as well) and run the browser without noticing that much difference from my laptop.
Can the ThinkPad T14 ARM Snapdragon variant function without pain as a daily Linux/BSD driver?
Snapdragon has excellent single-thread performance (unlike Ampere) if that’s what you’re asking.
No. It can run Windows well though.
Without pain? I mean, there is pain when using Linux. It just works better than, say, Windows.
The Desktop Linux will take over from here guys. Next year it will be ready, together with GNU Hurd for everyone and their Grandma.