jitbit · 88 points · 70 comments · vor 3 Tagen · Open original
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JOjohndoughvorgestern
Ox Alpha is almost certainly a model by Z.ai.
https://files.catbox.moe/k52n6k.png
The upper chart shows the availability of Ox Alpha and the lower chart shows the availability of GLM 5.3 by Z.ai. They had a blip at exactly the same time.
VOvolf_vor 3 Tagen
GLM 5.3 and all previous models don't have a vision encoder and can only accept text. Ox-Alpha can accept video and images, so unless Z-ai added a pretty good vision encoder for this model, I don't think so.
My money is on Moonshot and this being Kimi K3.5. The measured tps and latency is in-line with K3's tps and latency from Moonshot.
MiniMax M3.5 is also possible (but the MiniiMax provider is a lot more performant than the lab behind ox-alpha, so less likely).
GVgvkhnavor 3 Tagen
If it’s not zhipu then why is it returning errors that zhipu does for other models? Who else would return the exact same errors even if they took a lot of core infra like tokenizer from z?
JEjerrythegerbilvor 3 Tagen
As someone who uses NCD nearly every day, I have concerns about how it’s been used here.
But while we’re “guessing”: Xiaomi MiMO
TRtroyskvorgestern
It is probably from Google and is probably hosted on Vertex AI. Opencode announced that responses from Ox Alpha should be better and soon posted about Vertex eu and us multi region update in their changelog. I could be a Gemini model or a new one based on GLM based on tokenizer. Also the amount of inference it is providing for free is something only google can support with its TPUs. So maybe a GLM based model running on TPUs.
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Ox Alpha is almost certainly a model by Z.ai. https://files.catbox.moe/k52n6k.png The upper chart shows the availability of Ox Alpha and the lower chart shows the availability of GLM 5.3 by Z.ai. They had a blip at exactly the same time.
GLM 5.3 and all previous models don't have a vision encoder and can only accept text. Ox-Alpha can accept video and images, so unless Z-ai added a pretty good vision encoder for this model, I don't think so. My money is on Moonshot and this being Kimi K3.5. The measured tps and latency is in-line with K3's tps and latency from Moonshot. MiniMax M3.5 is also possible (but the MiniiMax provider is a lot more performant than the lab behind ox-alpha, so less likely).
If it’s not zhipu then why is it returning errors that zhipu does for other models? Who else would return the exact same errors even if they took a lot of core infra like tokenizer from z?
As someone who uses NCD nearly every day, I have concerns about how it’s been used here. But while we’re “guessing”: Xiaomi MiMO
It is probably from Google and is probably hosted on Vertex AI. Opencode announced that responses from Ox Alpha should be better and soon posted about Vertex eu and us multi region update in their changelog. I could be a Gemini model or a new one based on GLM based on tokenizer. Also the amount of inference it is providing for free is something only google can support with its TPUs. So maybe a GLM based model running on TPUs.